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TMO Confusion 4 views 2 Comments
03 June 2012 by Pumba's Pride
 

What does the statement "give me a reason not to award the try" actually allow the TMO to rule on...

We had an interesting situation in the SA Conference this weekend withe the Lions vs Sharks and then the Bulls vs Stormers. The situation was at try time when the Ref asked the TMO the question, "Give me a reason why I can't award the try" What is the TMO allowed to answer in this case? There is also the "Try, no try" question? The rules state that the TMO may only judge what happens in the in-goal area and not before the line. Why have 2 different questions that could possibly mean the same thing. The Bulls Vs Stormers game had a classic situation where the ball was not grounded as it was clearly on top of the oppositions foot but when the question of "give me a reason why I can't award the try" was asked, the TMO didn't seem to be able to say "The reason you can't award a try is because the ball wasn't grounded" In the Sharks vs Lions game, the commentators were up in arms because the TMO apparently didn't answer the question in the way he was allowed to. Surely teams want to win the game honestly and if they were on the other side of the decision they would also want the correct decision to be given. Who cares if the TMO doesn't only answer the question that was asked. Why make it so confusing. Simply ask the TMO if it was a try or not. He can very quickly say and give an outcome.

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2 . turmeric 07 Jun 2012 11:55 AM
I dont agree with the whole way it's done, however with respect to what you are asking as I understand it:
Outcomes are supposed to be weighted towards the on field ref's views. The question "give me a reason not to award the try" implies that the on field ref thinks it is a try but is not 100% sure. The TMO must therefore find definitive evidence that the try was not scored otherwise a try will be awarded. "Try or no try" implies the on field ref does not know whether or not a try has been scored and therefore the TMO makes the call without bias.

Hope that makes sense.

I think Rugby should look closer at how League does it. It is much clearer in my opinion.

1 . The Swede Eaters 04 Jun 2012 08:11 PM
Yeah I agree. I think the phrase give me a reason not to award a try should be banished. It should just be a straight ruling from the TMO, otherwise what is the point of using him if the referee is relatively sure the try has been scored. I also think the TMO should be able to rule on obvious forward passes and knock ons as in the Crusaders vs Highlanders game there were some tries scored from what most people knew were forward passes and knock ons earlier in the play but the TMO couldn't rule on them.

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